Another Response to Climate Change

...and another good one at that.

This letter to the editor of The Vernon Morning Star is from John Trainer, published July 5, 2019, entitled "Climate Indoctrination".

"The clever entertainment series Westworld strikes the imagination with the fantasy of choosing which historical civilization you would like to live in:  Greek, Roman, Wild West.  
How about neolithic cave man?

Other than a brief glimpse at what it looks like, I doubt many of us would voluntarily give up today's comforts for a cold, dark and smokey cave.

That may not include letter writer Jim Miles who recently proposed the collapse of the world-wide economy in order to, you guessed it, save the world.  Tell that to the billions in China, India and Africa who would switch places with us in a heartbeat.

Mr. Miles reminds me of the fellow who stands on the corner with a sign claiming the world will end tomorrow then shows up the next day with the same sign.

"CO2 is not a pollutant,

 it is a main building block

 of life and the world's

 major greenhouse gas

 is water vapor."

John Trainor             

Mr. Miles was writing to complain about a previous letter which questioned teachers letting young students out of school to protest the climate.  What are these kids being told that would scare them enough to believe that three billion years of climate change is suddenly so bad that they worry about the end of the world?

Are they not being taught that Vikings grew wheat in Greenland in 1100 AD or that much of North America was under a kilometre of ice 15 thousand years ago?

What incredible pre-civilization climate change occurred to make that ice disappear?  Is that not relevant in today's discussions?

The reality is that our education system has become so politicized that environmentalism has no room for facts.

"Are (students) not being taught that

 Vikings grew wheat in Greenland in 1100 AD

 or that much of North America was

 under a kilometre of ice

 15 thousand years ago?

What incredible pre-civilization

 climate change occurred

 to make that ice disappear?"

 John Trainor                   

CO2 is not a pollutant, it is a main building block of life and the world's major greenhouse gas is water vapor.

How on earth are future generations going to enjoy their three score and twenty if the siren call of environmentalism convinces them to welcome another ice age?

John Trainor

Follow-up to blog story.
More reading:  Science of the Earth, Climate and Energy,  Cole, Lueking, Goodstein.

Carbon tax is a boon to governments....millions of dollars pocketed from taxpayers...for nefarious reasons!

"Have you ever seen a new tax cancelled by government(s)?," Kia would've asked.

Nope.

Climate Change Response

This letter to the editor of the Morning Star was published June 26, 2019:

"It was nice to read Kieran Greandbois' letter (Students Rally for Climate Justice, Vernon Morning Star May 29) about the not so wonderful experiences interacting with the public over the student campaign for climate change response action.

"...argument for why

 it is impossible

 for man-made CO2 to be a

 significant factor in climate change."

It seems like a thoughtful and calm letter that recounted various instances of flip offs, name calling and knee-jerk reactions on the part of the public.

Among other points, he stated that "not one of the commenters has been able to back up their ridiculous claims with an unbiased scientific source."

In response, I volunteer to discuss the topic with him and the group in a respectful manner and to provide a credible, and essentially unassailable, mainstream scientific argument for why it is impossible for man-made CO2 to be a significant factor in climate change.

"...H2O water vapor has a

 much higher fractional content,

...has many thousands of times more

 greenhouse impact, and is responsible for

70 to 95 per cent of the greenhouse effect."

CO2 is only a trace gas in the atmosphere (0.000400 by fractional content), has a very limited width absorption spectrum, and has no significant greenhouse effect.

In contrast, H2O water vapor has a much higher fractional content (it varies with humidity), has a much wider absorption spectrum, has many thousands of times more greenhouse impact, and is responsible for 70 to 95 percent of the greenhouse effect on any particular day.

If Kieran wold like a small public venue for a meeting, I encourage him (and anyone else) to look up and join the new Vernon Planetary Reality group on Meetingup.com.

It's a friendly venue for inquiring about and discussing evidence for a variety of topics.

Alternatively, I volunteer to meet with the group in some other venue and take the time to provide useful information.

It is certain that world-wide climate change is happening.  It's hard to not agree with that after examining the worldwide floods, crop losses, and increased seismic activities in recent years.  It's a very serious topic because it affects the world food supply.

For example, many countries around the world have suffered 40 to 50 per cent crop losses because of weather in the past two years.

Climate change is not because of you.  It's not because of CO2.  It's because of the sun.

The real cause is the grand solar minimum that the earth is currently entering at the end of solar cycle 24.  There are many scientific measurements and reasons behind that statement.

Hopefully, Kieran and his group will take me up on my positive offer of time and science."

K. Jameson



(Blog note:  no website link is available for the Vernon Planetary Reality Group)